VW 8v cams
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Michel Hoche-Mong Super Moderator Location: Campbell, CA Join Date: 02/28/2006 Age: Possibly Wise Posts: 1,156 Rally Car: Golf, Golf, RX-3 |
What years and cars did the 9A appear in over there? Here they were just in the 90-92 GTI/GLIs and Passats. After that there was a many-year gap where we only got the ABA and the VR6. (Never had the ABF here.) I have a list around here somewhere of VINs that have a good shot at having oil squirters, but there didn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to it. Near's I can tell, US- or German-made cars had 'em and Brazil- or Mexico-made ones didn't. I'm wondering if some subset of the first group had forged cranks too. Self-righteous douche canoe |
Michel Hoche-Mong Super Moderator Location: Campbell, CA Join Date: 02/28/2006 Age: Possibly Wise Posts: 1,156 Rally Car: Golf, Golf, RX-3 |
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The 9As were not fitted to the Golf mk2s in the UK. But they were fitted to early Passats (before they got the ABF), and Corrados (which never got the ABF). The 9A I just stripped is a 1992 as marked in the casting on the block. Some 16v Audi 80s basically got the same 2.0 engine fitted to them with codes 6A, ACE. I have only ever found forged cranks in them, possibly Audi price premium warranting higher spec components. These longitudinally mounted engines are easily converted to transverse fitment with a few component swaps, eg. sump and oil pickup pipe, oil filter housing etc. One thing to note is the 051 103 373 D head fitted to later engines uses triple groove collets to retain the valves rather than the single groove type used on the other 16v heads. Disappointingly not yet a Jackass |
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Where would I find these? I have a Engle cam (from a circle tracker friend) that i want to put in my budget banger aba jetta hillclimber :-D Its an interesting one if anyone wants to take a look at it ... da-254. Its got a narrow lobe center (108) and a fair bit of lift (.475"  . I used it in my street going gti for a bit and man did it liven that up, specially seat of the pants torque... but only to about 6500 when it fell flat on its face (which i guess could have been several other issues with that car).
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John Vanlandingham Super Moderator Location: Ford Asylum, Sleezattle, WA Join Date: 12/20/2005 Age: Fossilized Posts: 14,152 Rally Car: Saab 96 V4 |
Pete, look at the throttle bodies on some of the slightly older Ford V8 trucks. There's bazillions in the yards, so getting 2 would be easy.... Then look at K-data.org: 
Done in a industrial way rather than some stoner surfer soldering willy-nilly. Only 345 Euro. or 475 Amerikanski dollar. This gets you at one swoop fuel and good ignition control which is pretty vital for real happiness especially if using any cam worth a damn. As for float with shim over, if you clearances are right---and no reason the shouldn't be---you won't do the tiddly-wink 'depress one side-then bat it out" thing.... Or you can gut hydraulic lifters ( get a hunk of wood , take the lifter and slam it down hard on the wood and the hydraulic dealie will eventually fall out) and mod them so you can use lash caps. or something UNDER. John Vanlandingham Sleezattle, WA, USA Vive le Prole-le-ralliat www.rallyrace.net/jvab CALL +1 206 431-9696 Remember! Pacific Standard Time is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time. |
Pete Remner Professional Moderator Location: Cleveland, Ohio Join Date: 01/11/2006 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 2,022 |
The hard part is finding something on the right throttle bore spread. I made an intake around one of those Ford throttles and they are a lot tighter than a DCOE. Most of 'em are only 40mm too unless you find a 460. I HAVE two Chevy LT1 throttles (48mmx2) and they are even tighter center-center, like practically siamesed. Makes things difficult if you want to use a manifold you already have in your hands instead of mucking around trying to make something. It appears that a Toyota 1MZ-FE (V6 found in some Camrys, '99-up) has a double throttle on 90mm centers like a DCOE but I haven't had one off yet to measure throttle blades. Looks like this: 
..but then fucking around has to be done to seal an airbox to that, and I'm lazy. But laziness is why I went with injection on the Mazda. So everything is still up in the air.
Yep, and between that (about what I'd been figuring for MS), a wiring harness, throttle bodies, and all of the other minor stuff that manages to add up, it's about a wash.
That's what the link is - lash caps that fit where the lash adjuster normally goes, and the price for ten is about half what discs for the stock solids go for... Pete Remner Cleveland, Ohio 1984 RX-7 (rallycross thing) 1978 Silence is golden, but duct tape is silver. Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/24/2013 02:51PM by Pete. |
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