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Opel 1900 seen in NH
December 11, 2009 10:02PM
One of the local used car places has a 1971 Opel 1900 4 door automatic stuffed off in the side lot.

No idea if it runs or what they want for it...looked like above average condition for a New England car (which means not completely rusted to oblivion).

(603) 672-0033 I know nothing about this outfit, except they've been in the paper for some sort of issues relating to their charity contribution status.

Snapped these with camera phone last week, car is likely under 9" of snow now...







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Re: Opel 1900 seen in NH
December 11, 2009 11:00PM
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> One of the local used car places has a 1971 Opel
> 1900 4 door automatic stuffed off in the side lot.

Cool.. I almost bought the canadian version in a 2 door once. We got those as Epic Envoys and Vauxhall Vivas. A few other names as well. 2 door, 4 door, 2 door wagon.. not sure if the coupe was officially sold over here.

I didn't know they were ever imported into the states under any name.

The coupes are amazing looking (imo). The droop snoots look good too.

Get a coupe throw on the "old nail" box flares and you've got one helluva cool looking ride.

It won't let me attach pics.



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Re: Opel 1900 seen in NH
December 11, 2009 11:21PM
hudson Wrote:
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>
> I didn't know they were ever imported into the
> states under any name.
>
> The coupes are amazing looking (imo). The droop
> snoots look good too.

Hell yeah we got Asconas, which is really just different window dressing than Mantas.

I managed to talk 5 guys into them 23-24 years ago.
They were way superior cars to anything Japonaise until the AE86s arrived, and it was saddled with a puny 1600.

They had 1900 motors that could be bore to 2,0; rack and pinion steering for which I got the internals to make them 2,4 turns I think, 22mm vs 19 stock rear wheel cylinders and wide shoes that lasted in the back, there were "Big" diffs and ring and pinions around, Tran-X made close ratio gearkits that I got for Sam Bryan and Dave Clark,

Because of different Homologation spec the Asconas were always more popular than Mantas in the rest of the world: Opel homologated a model Ascona with 2 x 45 sidedraft Solexes and some decent rods which meant anybody could build the Ascona to those specs and do Group 1, the GpN of the day. Mantas had gotten injection in the last year of the "A" models and was stuck with that for Gp1 and Gp2 (which was kinda like GpA but far more restrictive till the late 70s.

They were slightly longer than the 410/Commodah/Maz-dogRX2-3-7, stronger, had unequal length double A arm suspension, rack and pinion and obviously better.
But you couldn't beat INERTIA---just like now all the get a VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW!VW! we'vbe heard for the last 10 years








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Re: Opel 1900 seen in NH
December 11, 2009 11:33PM
Ah the Ascona.. I hadn't made that mental link Vauxhall Viva HC = Opel Ascona

Same tin work and everything eh?

Yeah group think, humans tend to do that. In a lot of ways it makes things easier, if not a whole lot more boring.

That's why I'm going to import a rusty old bagged out Simca 1000 to add to my fleet of obscure rear engined 1000 cc cars!



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Re: Opel 1900 seen in NH
December 11, 2009 11:56PM
hudson Wrote:
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> Ah the Ascona.. I hadn't made that mental link
> Vauxhall Viva HC = Opel Ascona
>
> Same tin work and everything eh?
>
You hadn't made the connection cause there twern't one.

From wiki:

Viva production was scaled down after the launch of the Chevette in spring 1975. Originally a 3 door hatchback, the Chevette offered 2 and 4 door saloons and a 3 door estate in 1976 that all usurped the Viva's position as Vauxhall's small car entry.

The Chevette hatch was also sold as the Opel Kadett City, but the Viva remained on sale until the later part of 1979.
The passing of the Viva marked a significant moment for Vauxhall, as it was the last car to be completely designed by the Luton-based company. All future Vauxhalls would be simply badge-engineered Opels, or in the case of the 2004 Vauxhall Monaro, a rebadged Holden.

Amusing this, those sue happy canajians!!!:
No 2.0 GT version was offered with the new range, although the 2.0 became the sole engine offering for Canada, where the HC became the Pontiac Firenza, marketed without the Vauxhall name. The cloned Envoy Epic was dropped as Chevrolet dealers now carried the domestic Chevrolet Vega. The HC was pulled from the Canadian market after two model years amidst consumer anger over corrosion and reliability issues. A class action lawsuit launched against General Motors of Canada by dissatisfied owners was not settled until the early 1980s.


Tweren't no Manta or Ascona


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Re: Opel 1900 seen in NH
December 12, 2009 12:04AM
john vanlandingham Wrote:
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> hudson Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Ah the Ascona.. I hadn't made that mental
> link
> > Vauxhall Viva HC = Opel Ascona
> >
> > Same tin work and everything eh?
> >
> You hadn't made the connection cause there twern't
> one.
>
> From wiki:
>
> Viva production was scaled down after the launch
> of the Chevette in spring 1975. Originally a 3
> door hatchback, the Chevette offered 2 and 4 door
> saloons and a 3 door estate in 1976 that all
> usurped the Viva's position as Vauxhall's small
> car entry.
>
> The Chevette hatch was also sold as the Opel
> Kadett City, but the Viva remained on sale until
> the later part of 1979.
> The passing of the Viva marked a significant
> moment for Vauxhall, as it was the last car to be
> completely designed by the Luton-based company.
> All future Vauxhalls would be simply
> badge-engineered Opels, or in the case of the 2004
> Vauxhall Monaro, a rebadged Holden.
>
> Amusing this, those sue happy canajians!!!:
> No 2.0 GT version was offered with the new range,
> although the 2.0 became the sole engine offering
> for Canada, where the HC became the Pontiac
> Firenza, marketed without the Vauxhall name. The
> cloned Envoy Epic was dropped as Chevrolet dealers
> now carried the domestic Chevrolet Vega. The HC
> was pulled from the Canadian market after two
> model years amidst consumer anger over corrosion
> and reliability issues. A class action lawsuit
> launched against General Motors of Canada by
> dissatisfied owners was not settled until the
> early 1980s.
>
>
> Tweren't no Manta or Ascona

Ah yes, I remember now.

But they're pretty much EXACTLY the same.

And yes, the HCs were horrible rust buckets. Buts sooo good looking winking smiley

http://cleveland.craigslist.org/cto/1501771738.html

Theres a 70s kadett for sale.



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Re: Opel 1900 seen in NH
December 12, 2009 12:50AM
hudson Wrote:
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> john vanlandingham Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > hudson Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Ah the Ascona.. I hadn't made that
> mental
> > link
> > > Vauxhall Viva HC = Opel Ascona
> > >
> > > Same tin work and everything eh?
> > >
> > You hadn't made the connection cause there
> twern't
> > one.
> >
> > From wiki:
> >
> > Viva production was scaled down after the
> launch
> > of the Chevette in spring 1975. Originally a
> 3
> > door hatchback, the Chevette offered 2 and 4
> door
> > saloons and a 3 door estate in 1976 that all
> > usurped the Viva's position as Vauxhall's
> small
> > car entry.
> >
> > The Chevette hatch was also sold as the Opel
> > Kadett City, but the Viva remained on sale
> until
> > the later part of 1979.
> > The passing of the Viva marked a significant
> > moment for Vauxhall, as it was the last car
> to be
> > completely designed by the Luton-based
> company.
> > All future Vauxhalls would be simply
> > badge-engineered Opels, or in the case of the
> 2004
> > Vauxhall Monaro, a rebadged Holden.
> >
> > Amusing this, those sue happy canajians!!!:
> > No 2.0 GT version was offered with the new
> range,
> > although the 2.0 became the sole engine
> offering
> > for Canada, where the HC became the Pontiac
> > Firenza, marketed without the Vauxhall name.
> The
> > cloned Envoy Epic was dropped as Chevrolet
> dealers
> > now carried the domestic Chevrolet Vega. The
> HC
> > was pulled from the Canadian market after
> two
> > model years amidst consumer anger over
> corrosion
> > and reliability issues. A class action
> lawsuit
> > launched against General Motors of Canada by
> > dissatisfied owners was not settled until
> the
> > early 1980s.
> >
> >
> > Tweren't no Manta or Ascona
>
> Ah yes, I remember now.
>
> But they're pretty much EXACTLY the same.
>
> And yes, the HCs were horrible rust buckets. Buts
> sooo good looking

THIS: ain't no Opel CIH motor, I've built CIH, and you sir are an OHC.


In case you dunno Opel CIH were not crossflow, dis is.
>
>
>
> Theres a 70s kadett for sale.
>
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Re: Opel 1900 seen in NH
December 12, 2009 01:27AM
john vanlandingham Wrote:
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> THIS: ain't no Opel CIH motor, I've built CIH, and
> you sir are an OHC.
>
>
> In case you dunno Opel CIH were not crossflow, dis
> is.

Yes, you're right, they are surprisingly different yet similar cars.. no if any shared parts but look almost identical.

I don't know my Opel motors to be honest.. neither do I know my Vauxhall ones.



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Re: Opel 1900 seen in NH
December 13, 2009 07:56AM
Dude, that's the sketchiest lot in town!!!!!!
I like it!
What were you really looking at, there :-)
Or maybe you looking for free daycare.








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Re: Opel 1900 seen in NH
December 13, 2009 03:21PM
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> Dude, that's the sketchiest lot in town!!!!!!
> I like it!
> What were you really looking at, there :-)
> Or maybe you looking for free daycare.

I was just scanning the junk, like I always do, that's how I find title-challenged SE-Rs to clutter the woods around your house. The Old-Pile 1900 stuck out amongst all the other junk.

I figured Bob Legere would have picked it up by now. smiling smiley



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Isuzu made. He wants less than $1800? How about a lot less. I woudn't give him $100 for that rustbucket.
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Re: Opel 1900 seen in NH
December 14, 2009 05:40PM
I guarantee the battery box is rusted out, drivers side floor underneath the battery box is rusted out, the front jacking points are rusted out and possibly the firewall around the brake booster is rusted out.
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Re: Opel 1900 seen in NH
December 14, 2009 05:52PM
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> I guarantee the battery box is rusted out, drivers
> side floor underneath the battery box is rusted
> out, the front jacking points are rusted out and
> possibly the firewall around the brake booster is
> rusted out.

That sounds like a challenge winking smiley

Driver side floors always go first in areas where they salt down the yellow line. I've learned this many a time sad smiley



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