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Re: Volvo Steel Flywheels Attn Turbobrickistas
July 20, 2011 11:32AM
well the piccie is greenish but they sure are shiny:





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Re: Volvo Steel Flywheels Attn Turbobrickistas
July 20, 2011 12:28PM
So John, what would it take to get a price on another run of flywheels, but for a different model of car?

What's my minimum quantity? 10 units or so?

Thanks,
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Re: Volvo Steel Flywheels Attn Turbobrickistas
July 20, 2011 12:51PM
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So John, what would it take to get a price on another run of flywheels, but for a different model of car?

What's my minimum quantity? 10 units or so?

Thanks,
Bob

Well I'm pretty selective about what cars I work on, ya know.
It's not like I'm some cheap whore who will dop anything for filthy lucre.

Is it a car/motor I like?smiling bouncing smiley

If its what i stink it is are you thinking of a nice 215mm pressure plate from somewhere somewhat North of Russelheim?

And yeah 10 would be the minimum. .

Funny you mention this cause I just unlaoded a flywheel while i was loading the car---its for something I think its called Fraud Fuck-us.
Morphodite dual mass thing, gag!



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Re: Volvo Steel Flywheels Attn Turbobrickistas
July 20, 2011 01:14PM
It's one of those funky CIH things....

Been using an off-the-shelf (cheap) 7.75" Ford 2300 circle track PP (you know, with circumferentially-located mounting tabs rather than the Lepo's radial-mount tabs which always snap like spaghetti), and a custom made disc from a So-Cal shop. Works great, lots less inertia, holds 200 ponies with no issues, and has light pedal pressure. And it's already Kawi green...

Here's a lightened stock flywheel I prototyped, but I get squirmy thinking about using it for racing. So I want steel for the real world.







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Re: Volvo Steel Flywheels Attn Turbobrickistas
July 20, 2011 01:33PM
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It's one of those funky CIH things....

Been using an off-the-shelf (cheap) 7.75" Ford 2300 circle track PP (you know, with circumferentially-located mounting tabs rather than the Lepo's radial-mount tabs which always snap like spaghetti), and a custom made disc from a So-Cal shop. Works great, lots less inertia, holds 200 ponies with no issues, and has light pedal pressure. And it's already Kawi green...

Here's a lightened stock flywheel I prototyped, but I get squirmy thinking about using it for racing. So I want steel for the real world.









Uh, uh yeah...
OK, I guess you pass as long as its Oldpile. Maybe I can make a coupla extras to bump the numbers up for those 2 motors that Clarkalainenen Doivi has seemingly abandoned,

just one question: who the fawk is using MY COLOR on some pressure plate??


Is that the pressure plate i think it is?



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Re: Volvo Steel Flywheels Attn Turbobrickistas
July 20, 2011 01:46PM
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just one question: who the fawk is using MY COLOR on some pressure plate??


Is that the pressure plate i think it is?

I think it's made by Zoom for Speedway Motors. 'Mini-stock 2.3 Ford' is the application. $85 for the pressure plate, and the custom disc was $130. Both new, not rebuilt.

The pressure plate is 2 lbs lighter than the stock 200 mm Opel stuff, and the lightened flywheel is now 15.5 lbs, down from 22.5 lbs stock. But I didn't go thinner than .500" anywhere. With steel it could certainly be lighter.



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Re: Volvo Steel Flywheels Attn Turbobrickistas
July 20, 2011 04:01PM
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just one question: who the fawk is using MY COLOR on some pressure plate??


Is that the pressure plate i think it is?

I think it's made by Zoom for Speedway Motors. 'Mini-stock 2.3 Ford' is the application. $85 for the pressure plate, and the custom disc was $130. Both new, not rebuilt.

The pressure plate is 2 lbs lighter than the stock 200 mm Opel stuff, and the lightened flywheel is now 15.5 lbs, down from 22.5 lbs stock. But I didn't go thinner than .500" anywhere. With steel it could certainly be lighter.


Hmmmm 200mm my default n.a. clutch has been for years the thing the Swedes used on 200-210 bhp CIH rally motors and that was B21T Volvo pressureplate.
Now-a-days Sachs has commonalised Volvo B21T and Saab 900 Turbo pressure plate, both being physically same bolt up and dowel.
I presume their idea was if it works for the ft/lbs of a good turbo, it'll work fine for n.a. higher BHP---but still limited torque---motors.

My favorite 200mm thing is doubtless VW aftermarket since i can get Kennedy Engineer Products and I know they are honest with their torque ratings:


and have available several ratings.



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Re: Volvo Steel Flywheels Attn Turbobrickistas
July 26, 2011 06:35AM
I've got my lightened stock cast iron flywheel (that makes me nervous, I kinda like my feet). It's drilled and machined for a Volvo pressure plate which works pretty good. You can use that for a pattern if you want.
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Re: Volvo Steel Flywheels Attn Turbobrickistas
July 26, 2011 06:35PM
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I've got my lightened stock cast iron flywheel (that makes me nervous, I kinda like my feet). It's drilled and machined for a Volvo pressure plate which works pretty good. You can use that for a pattern if you want.

I wanna see it.... the big deal is just leaving the biggest fillet radiius-es you can, no corners.
But since I hain't gots no Old-ile flywheels at all it'd let me have a good look.

Those Volvo ones are BIG and came in a t 14lbs for plain, and 13lbs for the 60-2 ones. That's hain't bad.

I mean Jeebus, light reciprocating parts, light flywheel, BEEEEEEEG STINKIN Valves.. dayum, should rip.

Dave do you have any MAIN BEARINGS worth using?
I spoke to Bob asking him but he probably forgot in sheer awe when he saw the bad ass Volvo flywheels, but it would probably have better oil pressure if upon assembly I had some main bearings in there.

I have STD and 010 for the 2 cranks. With mains we can do a test fit to determine exactly how much to deck the block...

You know where I live---I just broke a big toe so I ain't going too far...
(dropped a Cossie 7.5" LSD on it---but I made it to UPS!!!!!)



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Re: Volvo Steel Flywheels Attn Turbobrickistas
July 26, 2011 08:19PM
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[You know where I live---I just broke a big toe so I ain't going too far...
(dropped a Cossie 7.5" LSD on it---but I made it to UPS!!!!!)

OWWWW!!!!! Sonofasooperbitchin!!! But for what a 7.5" Cozzie diff goes for, I bet you damn sure took five Tramadols and made it to UPS!!!

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Re: Volvo Steel Flywheels Attn Turbobrickistas
July 26, 2011 08:22PM
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Dave do you have any MAIN BEARINGS worth using?
I spoke to Bob asking him but he probably forgot in sheer awe when he saw the bad ass Volvo flywheels, but it would probably have better oil pressure if upon assembly I had some main bearings in there.

I knew I was supposed to PM you about something.

I only have one set of STD mains, I'm out of everything else. I need to order a bunch more stuff over the next few months for some of my new stroker engines (2573 cc's from a 1.9 block!). That includes new bearings. I'm not worried about the rod bearings since I'm using Ford 2.3 racing stuff, but the mains are getting hard to find. Gotta go to Europe for the good stuff.

Didya get my PM with the sketch on the flywheel machining?

Bob
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July 26, 2011 11:30PM
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[You know where I live---I just broke a big toe so I ain't going too far...
(dropped a Cossie 7.5" LSD on it---but I made it to UPS!!!!!)

OWWWW!!!!! Sonofasooperbitchin!!! But for what a 7.5" Cozzie diff goes for, I bet you damn sure took five Tramadols and made it to UPS!!!

smiling smiley

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Fawkin toe is as purple as an aubergine--X-ray confirmed it's broke-ded, fawk.

But ya know what the bonus was? The guy PayPaled me the 64 bucks minutes after I emailed him the tracking and I got up this morning to find my Paypal account hacked with ZERO and my bank account with ZERO.
Over 100 separate 25 dollar transfers...

Loads of laughs, eh?



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Re: Volvo Steel Flywheels Attn Turbobrickistas
July 27, 2011 04:36AM
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I've got my lightened stock cast iron flywheel (that makes me nervous, I kinda like my feet). It's drilled and machined for a Volvo pressure plate which works pretty good. You can use that for a pattern if you want.

I wanna see it.... the big deal is just leaving the biggest fillet radiius-es you can, no corners.
But since I hain't gots no Old-ile flywheels at all it'd let me have a good look.



Stock 23 pound flywheel (missing starter ring gear) on left, lightened 15 pound flywheel on right.

Volvo pressure plate.

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Dave do you have any MAIN BEARINGS worth using?
I spoke to Bob asking him but he probably forgot in sheer awe when he saw the bad ass Volvo flywheels, but it would probably have better oil pressure if upon assembly I had some main bearings in there.

I have STD and 010 for the 2 cranks. With mains we can do a test fit to determine exactly how much to deck the block...

You know where I live---I just broke a big toe so I ain't going too far...
(dropped a Cossie 7.5" LSD on it---but I made it to UPS!!!!!)

I'll look on my Oldpile shelf for bearings.
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Re: Volvo Steel Flywheels Attn Turbobrickistas
July 27, 2011 09:27AM
This is why I no longer use pay pal. After my last transaction, someone made quite a few $75 donations to random people.
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Re: Volvo Steel Flywheels Attn Turbobrickistas
July 27, 2011 09:51AM
Someone used my paypal to buy cheap samuri swords...
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