Albert Kun Ultra Moderator Location: SF Ca. Join Date: 01/07/2008 Age: Possibly Wise Posts: 1,732 Rally Car: volvo 242 |
John Vanlandingham Professional Moderator Location: Ford Asylum, Sleezattle, WA Join Date: 12/20/2005 Age: Fossilized Posts: 14,152 Rally Car: Saab 96 V4 |
Albert Kun Ultra Moderator Location: SF Ca. Join Date: 01/07/2008 Age: Possibly Wise Posts: 1,732 Rally Car: volvo 242 |
Banned Junior Moderator Location: La la land Join Date: 01/25/2006 Age: Fossilized Posts: 3,740 Rally Car: Not a Volvo |
Steve Janes Mod Moderator Location: Cocoa Beach, Florida Join Date: 06/28/2013 Age: Settling Down Posts: 24 Rally Car: '79 Volvo 242 GT |
John Vanlandingham Professional Moderator Location: Ford Asylum, Sleezattle, WA Join Date: 12/20/2005 Age: Fossilized Posts: 14,152 Rally Car: Saab 96 V4 |
Banned Junior Moderator Location: La la land Join Date: 01/25/2006 Age: Fossilized Posts: 3,740 Rally Car: Not a Volvo |
The Volvo thing hasn't worked as well in the last 30 years as the BMW thing has in the last 3. BMWs are Megan Fox fresh outta the shower smellin all Ivory soap squeaky clean needing her back dried. 240s are the 80 year old school librarian with a wool skirt, bobby-pinned bun and baggy cinnamon colored stockings hanging over here brown lace up shoes....hell even Humpty Dumpty got laid one more time than the average Volvo owner.
But that 240 could be a deal, easy fixer and sell to buy a 325. 
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John Vanlandingham Professional Moderator Location: Ford Asylum, Sleezattle, WA Join Date: 12/20/2005 Age: Fossilized Posts: 14,152 Rally Car: Saab 96 V4 |
Wrong Gene. You are mistaking the "I saw-ed it on the Inner-net"...or because you personally saw it recently---it counts more than better some time ago. You are also mistaken that "we are faster now"--you've said that many times but I am not convinced--- When there was the most British--Higgins Higgins Lovell and whoever in the $32k per event buy-your-ride Subies--This car was consistently close close behind: 
usually 4th or 5th and very close in time. And he did that for years..but unless you assemble results from here and there---you'd never know how many people were doing overall against the "National" class. History is written by the arse-lickers for the victors. 25 -years ago, Bo Skovronek was quicker than anybody is the whole continent except maybe 2 guys: Millen and Buffum..240. The BMW fad is not a fad of design or the potential of the car---it is a BUY this expensive one and use this expensive motor and it'll be fine... It works, but it ain't something that many who want to get into the sport can do. John Vanlandingham Sleezattle, WA, USA Vive le Prole-le-ralliat www.rallyrace.net/jvab CALL +1 206 431-9696 Remember! Pacific Standard Time is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time. |
Brian j Dyer Elite Moderator Location: southern maine Join Date: 05/01/2009 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 381 Rally Car: 04 Rocky Mountain MTB... |
Dave Kern Mod Moderator Location: Centennial Join Date: 07/11/2008 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 1,085 Rally Car: Compact M3 & Evo IX |
In the grand scheme of things, buying a donor 325i for $1000 and leaving the motor in (I's not smrt enough to do this) or picking up a sub $2000 M3 engine (prices have fallen quite a bit since I started in 2009) isn't outside the realm of what a ralliest should be able to swing if they're going to do more than one event. Considering no matter what you start with, you're into a rally build for a minimum of $5-7k for build expenses, this notion that a BMW has to have thousands in XYZ is just flat out absurd. Embrace the fact that the BMW is the new volvo/merkur for anyone outside of an area that has no rust. Yes there are people who've spent extra to get higher spec stuff...someone will ALWAYS spend more than "you" so that's not something to hold against BMWs...can't imagine that yellow car setting top 5 times cost less than $10k. Besides...when you're done with a volvo build, it still looks like an old volvo...but I supposed that's still better than a merkur. 
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Banned Junior Moderator Location: La la land Join Date: 01/25/2006 Age: Fossilized Posts: 3,740 Rally Car: Not a Volvo |
I doubt if there were as many Volvos in the whole country rallied in the last 20 or 30 years as there were rotary Mazdas at one event back in the 80-s. Forget the 510s, Colts, Arrows, VWs, Audis, GHL Omni and Daytona cars, Corolla/Celica and even BMWs. My memory ain't that bad. They never were significant in the US. They never spoke performance. Clogs, hairy legged wimmin, tow trucks, green shit growing on the window channels those are the memories Volvos evoke. And now that they are decades out of production you somehow see the second coming. They are dieing daily now, being crushed even faster. The steel was good, the concept ok, the car passable but no one ever laid awake at night wishing to find one under the Xmas tree. No on ever had a poster of one next to Farah on the wall. Mean Billy Jean couldn't even spell Volvo. Daisy Duke thought a Volvo was what she sat on...Hell even the Ford Granada had better popularity.
But hey, maybe Betamax will make it after all and between the huge 240 rally aftermarket and your video collection you'll have the last laff. 
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John Vanlandingham Professional Moderator Location: Ford Asylum, Sleezattle, WA Join Date: 12/20/2005 Age: Fossilized Posts: 14,152 Rally Car: Saab 96 V4 |
America never was significant in rally... You aren't the first one to think that something I say is "behind' when it may actually be 10 years ahead. or 20  John Vanlandingham Sleezattle, WA, USA Vive le Prole-le-ralliat www.rallyrace.net/jvab CALL +1 206 431-9696 Remember! Pacific Standard Time is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time. |
Grant Hughes Infallible Moderator Location: Whitefish, MT Join Date: 01/11/2006 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 6,818 Rally Car: BMW |
Steve Janes Mod Moderator Location: Cocoa Beach, Florida Join Date: 06/28/2013 Age: Settling Down Posts: 24 Rally Car: '79 Volvo 242 GT |
Banned Junior Moderator Location: La la land Join Date: 01/25/2006 Age: Fossilized Posts: 3,740 Rally Car: Not a Volvo |
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